Comments on: Beta 6.7 Released

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:45:14 +0000

I got a bold `l’ into my Times New Roman size 12 gens, and have decided to throw away the para symbol. It’s only a slightly darker shade but enhances everything around it and gives it more depth!

I really wanted to include various bold characters when editing the font, but I couldn’t figure it out (why certain characters were failing to save in the font properly) so I just went with the `l’. From what I could tell, the other bold characters might not blend in so easily, but a bold `l’ works magic on the results. Also curious about what effect characters such as period. Maybe italic `c’…

The ratio seems to be slightly off doing it this way, but maybe just because of the whole font issue.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:44:42 +0000

I spent some time working on getting it working in 98 a while ago but I just couldn’t figure it out why it doesn’t when there’s no reason why it shouldn’t work. I tried to get around the bug by accessing the raw data on the clipboard directly, but it only worked under certain conditions and caused other problems.

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:43:55 +0000

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that I was mainly talking about the image clipboard function. Just realized that the CF_UNICODE wouldn’t activate the copy and paste under my system for various text editors, thought that the problem may have been the CF_DIB when it came to the image clipboard within the software.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:43:26 +0000

Most of the clipboard stuff in my program uses the built in functions for the controls so I doubt there’s much I can do, especially if you’re having problems pasting into other programs.

CF_DIB is a bitmap format, the others are different text formats. If I had to guess it’s probably a problem with 98 and CF_UNICODE, I’m not sure it’s even supported:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/winui/winui/windowsuserinterface/dataexchange/clipboard/clipboardformats.asp

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:42:37 +0000

Not sure about this, but I can see the properties for the clipboard of the unicode text copied from BabelPad reveals that it is the format:

CF_UNICODE, 32

When I copy and paste that into Firefox and then copy and paste it from Firefox, it gains the additional formats:

CF_LOCALE, 32
CF_OEMTEXT, 36
CF_TEXT, 40

It’s thereafter functional in regular windows apps.

When I copy and paste an image, I get the fileformat:

CF_DIB

Is it possible that ASCGen just doesn’t pick up that format?

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:41:17 +0000

Just curiously, I found a bug with clipboard on ‘98 with the software BabelMap/Pad. For some reason, it won’t let me copy and paste text directly from the software into Windows aps. The copy and paste right click menu won’t become selectable! It will allow me to paste it into Firefox, however. I’ve spent all afternoon trying to figure it out but to no avail. Just think it could be related and thought I’d mention it.

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:40:06 +0000

Also, I thought different font and sizes may create an interesting effect. For instance, you could create a gradient using all different sizes of one character or several characters of 1 font. Using multiple fonts may make be somewhat like a mosaic. I am, personally, most interested in merging bold and regular text (same font and size) for communication on a message board which has removed most basic code, such as [img]. I don’t necessarily believe it should detract from the program to function at the most basic level (one font, size and style) but compliment it.

I’m sorry for making so many asks, also.

By: Dwayne

Dwayne — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:38:29 +0000

Well, I threw together a couple or — poor — examples. I thought it’d be too much trouble to figure out a good relationship between bolds and regular Courier New, so I just pick the two darkest shades that I felt worked to some degree and attached them to the regular conversion.

Regular:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/Dwayne2005/claireregular.gif

Bold:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/Dwayne2005/clairebold.gif

Combined:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/Dwayne2005/claire.gif

At the photobucket account, where you can see it zoomed out and compare them that way:

http://photobucket.com/albums/a307/Dwayne2005/

I — personally — think the font characters remain compatible between bold and regular.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:37:42 +0000

The problem is that with the way the images are processed, “Courier New, 12pt” and “Courier New, 12pt bold” might as well be totally different fonts. There’s nothing theoretically difficult about converting them, it’s just that everything is set up to use one font at a time so I’d need a way to pass the font information with each character.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:36:54 +0000

Yeah, just basicallt everything remains the same in the interface, including the font button. What font/style you select with that button would remain the font for the ordinary text output. But if you highlight the text in the ramp or valid characters, and right-click, you get a font option to designate a font-style specific to the highlighted characters. So, it would marked with font and style tags when saved in the xml. Every time you select that ramp in the software, it recalls the font that was assigned to it.

It means basically every gen done with different fonts or styles or font sizes (I don’t know how different height text will work in relation to the other characters?) will have to be done in the same generative way as your variable width generations.

It’s probably a very complex idea to code, so I won’t pressure you into it. Just that I think it’ll be nothing but a plus for the software.